Life & Leadership: A Conscious Journey

Designed Evolution & Building the Noosphere for Humanity | Paul Quaiser

September 17, 2020 Michelle St. Jane Season 1 Episode 3
Life & Leadership: A Conscious Journey
Designed Evolution & Building the Noosphere for Humanity | Paul Quaiser
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Life & Leadership: A Conscious Journey
Designed Evolution & Building the Noosphere for Humanity | Paul Quaiser
Sep 17, 2020 Season 1 Episode 3
Michelle St. Jane

Let’s talk about Designed Evolution & Building the Noosphere for Humanity with featured guest Paul Quaiser.  He is the Principal Consultant with the Human Sustainability Institute and Atlas Noosphere Center.


Listen now to learn about:

  • Noosphere for Humanity [1:02-1:25]  
  • Smart Cities [32:04] & Forest Cities [32:27]
  • Sea-Steading Demonstration sites for Frontier technologies from energy  production [33:14]
  • Astro ports [33:35],Dark Skies [33:51] StarLink network & low Earth orbiting satellite network for communications  [34:21]   
  • Electro-smog [35:27] and altering our energetic envelope [35:43] 


Quotes:
“I think in its simplest form, the Noosphere is made up of all of humankind's tools and systems that are absolutely in balance with the natural systems. That's the best way that I could describe it is, so everyone can understand what that is. It's how we exist and all of the systems that we create, but in balance with the natural systems.”
- Paul offers a definition of Noospher

Paul Quaiser, Principal Consultant with the Human Sustainability Institute, is a conscious steward in the creation and development of ecosystems.  He refers to his networks and colleagues as “humanity's imaginal cells architecting a benevolent future for Earthlings.”
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Michelle St Jane

To me, these conscious stewards are socio-environmental imagineers!
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Michelle St. Jane

Talked about on the Show:


About the Guest:

Paul Quaiser consults, advises, and coaches a broad range of change-makers, working toward the implementation of resilient and regenerative communities. 


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Show Notes Transcript

Let’s talk about Designed Evolution & Building the Noosphere for Humanity with featured guest Paul Quaiser.  He is the Principal Consultant with the Human Sustainability Institute and Atlas Noosphere Center.


Listen now to learn about:

  • Noosphere for Humanity [1:02-1:25]  
  • Smart Cities [32:04] & Forest Cities [32:27]
  • Sea-Steading Demonstration sites for Frontier technologies from energy  production [33:14]
  • Astro ports [33:35],Dark Skies [33:51] StarLink network & low Earth orbiting satellite network for communications  [34:21]   
  • Electro-smog [35:27] and altering our energetic envelope [35:43] 


Quotes:
“I think in its simplest form, the Noosphere is made up of all of humankind's tools and systems that are absolutely in balance with the natural systems. That's the best way that I could describe it is, so everyone can understand what that is. It's how we exist and all of the systems that we create, but in balance with the natural systems.”
- Paul offers a definition of Noospher

Paul Quaiser, Principal Consultant with the Human Sustainability Institute, is a conscious steward in the creation and development of ecosystems.  He refers to his networks and colleagues as “humanity's imaginal cells architecting a benevolent future for Earthlings.”
-
Michelle St Jane

To me, these conscious stewards are socio-environmental imagineers!
-
Michelle St. Jane

Talked about on the Show:


About the Guest:

Paul Quaiser consults, advises, and coaches a broad range of change-makers, working toward the implementation of resilient and regenerative communities. 


SUBSCRIBE to this show on your favorite platform:


Let's Stay Connected:

Michelle St Jane 0:01 

Welcome to Life and Leadership. I believe in creating community and actions and creating space to be curious. This podcast aims to take you on a conscious journey to quality diverse, innovative content, and conversation. My hope is that we create a circle of influence or change the ascendancy of compassionate leadership in the world myth.

Welcome to today's episode today we're interviewing a pioneer and a conscious do it one of my favorites around evolution. Paul Quasier is involved in building Noosphere for humanity. His research experiences have taken him through wisdom traditions, anthropology, astrophysics, psychedelics, and virtual reality. With the international lockdown, this is a good reminder of the intimate interconnectedness of the planet. As noted by the late Vladimir Vernadsky, great Russian geologists and deer chemist. he pioneered the step scientific study of life's impact on the earth and Pierre de Chardin. He was a French idealist, philosopher, and anthropologist, who developed Vernadsky’s concept of the Noosphere. Paul, what is your understanding, and can you share a definition of Noosphere? 

Paul Quaiser 1:17

I think in its simplest form, the Noosphere is made up of all of humankind's tools and systems that are absolutely in balance with the natural systems. That's the best way that I could describe it is, so everyone can understand what that is. So it's how we exist and all of our systems that we create, but in balance with the natural systems, absolutely the interaction and the communication. 

Michelle St Jane 1:43

Paul has an outstanding record for building strategic partnerships with leaders across multiple disciplines that I much admire. 

1:38 

I'd like to quote Paul. When he speaks of his networks, of colleagues, he calls them fascinating. Paul refers to them as “humanity's imaginal cells architecting a benevolent future for Earthlings.” I really value your conscious stewarding, the creation and development of ecosystems that you're involved with. I keep track of innovative leaders who have a vision and a willingness to invest in these opportunities and to share them. 

2:18 

I like the idea of this new human-centered digital economy based on sustainability, transparency, decentralization, individual privacy, and radical collaboration. Can you tell us a bit more about that? 

Paul Quaiser 2:32 

If you understand the concept of biomimicry, which is a design principle around modeling things after things in nature, that's really at the core of the design of our work. 

2:46 

When humankind, during the Industrial Age, created a bunch of centralized operating systems. Where the intelligence and the control of those systems, whether it'd be financial systems, communication systems, even transportation systems, have a centralized core and then distributed nodes.

3:06

Nature works kind on a more on a cellular level is these different cells have their own effective autonomy. And then they become connected to their surrounding cells and organisms to become organs in a system. So it's really about symbiosis. How can we create human systems that are symbiotic within the larger ecosystem? 

Michelle St Jane 3:32 

Thanks, Paul, so interesting. I've been following cellular intelligence and non-human participation as a key part of my doctorate. 

3:42 

Congratulations on your appointment to the Digital Economist Council this year. What can you tell us about that position? 

Paul Quaiser 3:50 

We build these systems, you know, obviously, monetary and value exchange is a key component to our infrastructure systems. 

4:00 

About a year and a half ago, I was invited to an international educational conference called Global Minded. And it brought in technologists and educators from all over the world, from academia at all levels. I was asked to speak on a panel there about the use of technology and the evolution of technology for learning and education. And basically, what is the outcome? 

4:29

From my perspective that learning and education are needing to move toward individualized and personal learning versus getting a homogenized curriculum that you know, every kid and every person learns the same content versus, you know, going on our own individual routes. That same concept requires a completely different type of information network to support that. 

5:00

Well, coincidentally, that same network for learning and education mimics the kind of network that's necessary for how value exchange is going to be evolving across humanity. 

We're seeing that now with the emergence of blockchain types of technologies. cryptocurrencies, which is something that's been actually going on, throughout history forever. We've used coffee for example. or chocolate, cocoa, or cacao. We've used beads and jewels as units of exchange of value. This goes back to the centralized versus decentralized discussion we had just a few minutes ago. We're now the monetary exchange seems to be moving toward a bio regionally-based token type of unit of exchange, and then that bioregion has an exchange system at the edge of that region and then exchanges goods and services through that type of blockchain type of currency. We see that evolving moving forward. 

Michelle St Jane  6:12 

Yes, my favorite exchange for the Atlantic trade was seashells. 

Paul Quaiser 6:44 

Beautiful, yeah. Yeah, the asset. backing for these different types of currencies, if you will, the orientation is that the asset backing is more nature-based.

The value of protecting the natural resources of Earth is being connected now to the monetary systems. 

Michelle St Jane 6:44 

That is really interesting. I am following regenerative development, placemaking, and designing for thrive-ability in terms of urban spaces, native spaces, traditional spaces, and tribal spaces. 

6:56 

Paul has an amazing bio and it will be available in the show notes. I'd like to just touch on some highlights. At the end of the last century, Paul was cycling through leadership as he puts it. Developing multi-disciplinary opportunities. And to me, I now see it's multi discipline across many areas with other professionals willing to collaborate, which is so important because everyone has a place at the table from the historians through to the economists. 

There are some themes that I noted. Paul is attracted to technology, social impact collaborations with philanthropic endeavors, education, and wellness through the development and design of health tech. All of which you get two thumbs up from me 

Paul Quaiser 7:38 

I started my quest for identifying, from a systemic standpoint, fulcrum points or what Buckminster Fuller refers to as trim tabs in society that if we were to apply a little bit of energy toward those fulcrum points or trim tabs, it would change humanity's trajectory. Obviously, we would need to know what direction we would want to move that. So there's been that kind of connection between anthropology and our historical patterns as well as futurism and what direction do we need to move and we are really, quite frankly, on a threshold right now, with humanity

whether you look at it from the transhuman, transhumanism movement. Or now, with the COVID impacting us economically, so many of our systems are in the downward or in a dystopic point or a decomposition cycle of their life cycle, where something new the new systems needs to be. Whether that's from the vision of it, through the mechanics of it, these new systems need to be identified, visualized, and then designed and then created and implemented. 

8:56 

Initially, just kind of like space exploration. Sometimes you have to try things. You can modify them, but we need to get some of these seeds started. 

9:06 

Immediately, all the analyses I've gone through, from systems analysis, using big data, to the wisdom traditions are all indicating we're kind of in that void right now. Between 2020 and 2050, where the best way to describe it as we need to step into a phase shift which could be considered an evolutionary phase shift for how we exist and coexist on this planet. 

Michelle St Jane  9:37 

Thank you Paul I appreciate you bringing up the cosmos or out of space. I will be doing an episode on that because I'm feeling quite passionate about what's happening out there. And our treaties are not covering commercial endeavors and commercial endeavors are beyond our reach. Because if they're global, and then they're not necessarily local. I was working, I had the opportunity to work in and around reinsurance of satellites and rockets going up in the mid-90s. And I remember asking the question about space, junk, and pollution. And it wasn't important. And actually, I was not very interested in stepping into that industry because I was very concerned about stewardship. Not that I had that language at that time. So last year, I was on a talk panel with some other people considering if “Are humans parasites?” Around, you know, you know what we're doing in outer space now. So watch out for that episode upcoming. I saw that you were doing resilience conditioning team retreats, would you speak to that? 

Paul Quaiser 10:42 

I think I would need to create a foundation for why I engaged in that work and I'm still very involved in it. As human beings are organisms, we have internal states. So we vibrate, we resonate. We operate in different states and conditions and phases as well. Well as our environment has influences on that, so this connects you know, where we are, you know, from a health and wellness standpoint to how we can survive in alien environments like outer-space. 

11:18 

The resilience work really comes in, as in what state is the human body in, or each individual and that just happened to gravitate toward leadership. In a lot of cases, it's because people in different leadership roles also encounter extreme levels of stress. And, quite frankly, like the astronauts and astronaut development, I consider astronauts kind of the elite industrial athlete because they need to be cognitively and intellectually be at the top of their game. As well as physically resilient to all the challenges that they put their bodies through. And stay Cognizant while they're being stressed extremely. A lot of their training and conditioning is around that. Other orientations around that methodology are around trying to achieve the zone state, which you hear a lot about, especially from, you know, the athletic environment. But what that really means is that our consciousness our awareness is

like a spectrum of what we refer to as our perceptual orientation, and we get a lot of that information through our senses. But it also is filtered and influenced by what state we exist in internally, as well as environmental conditions so related to what's going on now with the virus. For example, the thing that has not been brought out as openly as I thought it should is toxicology reports. You know, like what's in our air, what's in our water, what's in our food that could be influencing this optimal function for our immune system and for, you know, biological regeneration, cellular regeneration, neurogenesis, you know, keeping our minds fresh, and renewing. 

That's where that work really resides. Where it exists today is I, and some colleagues and I are implementing what could generally be titled as an innovation center. 

13:27 

We're taking the most current frontier technologies, which you could consider biomed or biotech types of technologies from biosensors to various types of feedback mechanisms, to entrain the system to operate optimally. You have like decompression chambers that you use for scuba diving. They're using those types of chambers now to oxygenate the system to influence more optimal cellular function when the system is fully oxygenated. Many people are familiar with the smartwatches and the biometric sensors that you can buy on bands and different types of straps, and that's moving toward where you put a translucent Band Aid somewhere on your system. These nanosensors are also being integrated into like sports-oriented type of shirts and garments. The information then goes in through your smartphone to be analyzed by an artificial intelligence and then you get feedback loops and that feedback loop might be as simple as analyzing your facial

status, and it came to a conclusion of what mood you're in, or it is analyzing your voice frequency. Some of the frontier technologies are indicating that they can determine chemical composition in your body, from your voice frequency. Just like a carrier wave in the communication system carries information. They're able to extrapolate all different kinds of data points from this biometric sensing. But the thing that's missing is are the feedback loops. Typically, you just get information Okay, I slept this amount of hours. This amount of time last night I was in REM state, blah, blah, blah. But it doesn't actually give you in training type of feedback loops, and that's where we're connecting those dots. For example, you're in a particular stateand most of us like to listen to music during the day or when we go for walks or, you know, whatever you're doing, driving in the car. What if that music had embedded in it frequencies that would train your mind to operate in a more optimal state versus being in an incoherent state, like being locked into a stressful condition. And those frequencies might not be necessarily recognizable in the audible spectrum, but what they're doing is they're literally kind of like a tuning fork would be used for an instrument and training your system to operate in a more optimal state. And they've already been doing a lot of this stuff in with space exploration with pulse generators, trying to create a normalized or a more optimal, an optimized environment like for the astronauts. 

Michelle St Jane 16:07 

I appreciate your sharing that kind of knowledge You're also an editorial writer on being transhuman. So you're hitting all of the markers here, you know in terms of everything that you're doing. So are you naturally a writer? I mean, I did a doctorate it was tough as I'm a verbal processor. Thus, a podcast is more attractive to me than a blog.

Paul Quaiser 16:27 

Oh, I definitely understand that. No, I have this quest, if you will, it has pushed me into areas, like public speaking and to writing too. Really, I think the most intriguing aspect of it is the people that I've encountered over the last two decades on this quest to identify those fulcrum points. It's truly humbling to meet these amazing human beings that are trying to do good for the world, and the traumas and the challenges that they've been facing, you know, professionally, personally health wise too that has turned around those traumas have been turned around and used really as fuel and inspiration for them, to engage in those challenges. So it's really these people have kind of pushed through the threshold of fear into courage. 

And, you know, against all odds, and that's probably been the most amazing that the transhumanist movement is really related to that threshold, that kind of that fork in the road that I mentioned before. 

Michelle St Jane 17:34 

Wow, you hit on some really, really salient points here. I just want to speak to a couple of them the biophilia I just love that you bought this talk term up in terms of connection to life. When I get my doctorate I my doctorate was based on a fulcrum point like a children's seesaw where I was looking for how do we find the balance between the sacred money market versus people and planet and I add now the cosmos because I'm very concerned about out of space. People thought I was nuts. But when I when I created my fieldwork, my fieldwork doubled and lasted twice as long as planned. CEOs were talking to me not just for the 30 minutes I’d request but for up to a couple of hours. There was this intrinsic concern expressed, compassion and wanting to do something. But we haven't built the bridge on how to do it. So that that's fine for me. The podcast is about life, leadership and in terms

of biophilia. I restarted my PhD right towards the end, because I added nature to the fieldwork. Literally two superstorms hit my fieldwork site. No internet, no corporate jets getting off the ground. Life stood still. And, my CEO still wanted to talk to me. So I like talked about nature. And then I said to my chief supervisor, oh, I think I need to add nature to my fieldwork. Storms speak. The wind speaks. The birds speak, and basically added non-human participants, to my doctrate. Nobody's really picked up on that yet, but I'm sure they will. 

9:01 

I love what you're talking about in terms of dystopia, because, in my Master's in philanthropy, I kept talking to the government and saying how can we live in such a rich country and have growing poverty. They literally couldn't see the poverty. My Masters opened my eyes and I had to talk to business and government leaders about it because I felt like perhaps they have the power to do something. Well, then, I realized nature really had the power. 

At the end of my doctorate, the epilogue actually cites verbatim the mayor of Tomorrowland. I have the whole speech set out in epilogue is what he says. Because literally in my academic work, and in my, in my professional life, I had gone in and said, Hey, you know, and nothing seemed to really resonate. So I've set the whole thing in the back of my doctorate like read this. I might be saying it, many of us are saying this, is even in the movies. 

19:53 

Also, I'm really grateful you bought up about the digital It'll overload and/or the digital opportunities we have. I'm going to do an episode around digital abundance and digital addictions. I did an article on LinkedIn, I think about 18 months or two years ago before this was even really out there. But I was astounded at what the

impacts are. We have a six-year-old screen sucker in our house and I'm like watching how her personality can change and her cognitive overload as it happens when she is unwillingness to unplug. There’s a great documentary called Screen Agers (there’s a link in resources), although they were talking about teenagers, not a lot of talk takes place around that. 

 20:29 

Now you're involved in some other things as well. And I'm just gonna put them out there so you can put them in the frame with the Atlas Noosphere Center and yeah, the Vital Labs and OneHUB. Is there anything more you'd like to add on those fronts? What's current what's coming up or how you've pivoted would be great. 

Paul Quaiser 20:49 

Okay, in essence, what myself and a number of my colleagues are focused on, and this spans all the way up to the United Nations environmental program, but and down to very detailed, very specific developments in with and how do we produce energy? How do we grow? How do we regenerate and grow food to the architecture that we're using? The essence of my focus and most of my colleagues are oriented is to plant seeds. And, you know, to start a fractal, so to speak of a different platform for communities. I'll start kind of from the rural environment, implementing communities that can produce their own energy and can grow their predominant grow their own food. They become autonomous to a large degree. This includes their habitat, where they live, how you know, how they transport in and out of that community. What their kind of micro industries there are. What they're producing, that they might be able to exchange outside of their community. So that's, that's on a rural basis. Creating the designs for these rural communities to improve quality of life. And that that improvement has is embedded within an overall what I'll call resonance or harmonic to be as balanced with nature as possible to where we're not being that acidic type of entity that you described a few minutes ago. 

22:28 

Then in the urban environments, and these are connected in the urban environments, there is a relationship to the Smart City deployments, which have, in my opinion really missed the mark. There are some that are trying to be more balanced with, with nature, like these forests, cities, they're calling them smart cities, but forest cities where they're planting more trees, and trying to engage systematically in carbon sequestration. So, but that's only like one piece of it. They're not including the social aspects of it and so on. So on the urban side is the we're really trying to implement right now flagship types of innovation centers, and then the Innovation Center serves as kind of the nucleolus To spread out toward the urban environment, and it, you know, it'll serve as a demonstration site for frontier technologies from energy production to what they're calling seasteading. Now, you know, there's a huge movement, especially among the wealthy to say, well, maybe because of water levels rising, maybe we should have our habitats in a floating situation to where it moves with the rising water levels, to connecting to Astro ports, you know, you said you had a concern with what we're doing in space, one of my colleagues is working on the software side of collecting space junk, because there is so much debris out there and even if and connected to these new designs, a lot of like, with New Zealand specifically, they're the development plans. Have a theme or concept that they want to maintain, which is called dark sky. So their dark regions, so there's no light pollution in that area. When you go out at night, you can actually embrace the magnificence of the cosmos with all the stars. Now, simultaneous to that we have implementations like the Starlink network, which is this Low Earth Orbiting satellite network for communications. I do feel that there is a significant relevance to that network. Because any living organism one of the first essential functions that it has to be able to do is energy and information exchange at a cellular level or at a macro level systemic level. The low Earth orbiting satellite network will provide us a resilient network that, that we can access. Hopefully, it'll facilitate the reduction, because you would have that satellite downlink location and then the backhaul from that downlink, which should be in a quiet medium, like a fiber optic backbone. 

Because we are one of the pollutions that we are not talking about generally, is what they call electrosmog. Which is all the radiation that we're adding to our environment. And there's significant debate around the, the negative effects of all of this artificial radiation. The bottom line is, energy is energy. And if we're altering our energetic envelope, there are going to be changes in that environment and how we respond biologically in those environment. So we need to be conscientious of how we're altering our environment as we develop these systems. So that's really, we're focused on a flagship location or flagship locations, because they're going to look differently. And we're basically want to seed examples are these pilots of these new systems throughout the world. You know, I'll pick on New Zealand briefly, New Zealand's communication system is is dependent on a submarine cable running to that country. And if something happens through some type of storm, or whatever circumstance and they're cut off, because that cable failed, that hardware component failed. I'm not sure they have a sufficient backup to keep them connected to the rest of the world and to each other, because they're dependent on atomic clocks that the next work itself is synchronizing. So trying to create these more autonomous systems is really the focus of my work.

Michelle St Jane 26:51 

Thank you. Wow, you speak so broadly on so many different topics. It's a delight to talk with you. I love your personal mission around identifying fulcrum points in society. You've beautifully explained some great ways to do that. You do some amazing work, but you also work with people and call yourself a conscious steward. It's definitely one of my favorite words. Could you speak To your consulting and advisory and coaching work that you do like it? Yeah. 

Paul Quaiser 27:20 

Okay. Well, it was really part of the research transition that I had had been conducting over the last 20 years really. I've worked with education and really kind of on a strategic level. Working with education, I've worked with behavioral health, I worked with physical, you know, the traditional healthcare systems, all the way through to corrections. And those types of environments, you know, under the topic of recidivism, and, you know, how can we actually heal the people that are or influence the people that are in prisons to the construct And industry, landscape design that translated into creating healing gardens, you know, this connection with nature, healing gardens for at hospitals and healthcare facilities. 

You know, I see this kind of harmonic or resonance going on in so many different fields. I mean, the healthcare industry is saying, you know, one of the best things that you can do to improve your immune system and your health is go out in nature. Well, why is that? Is that the resonant frequency that's in nature that helps us align our system in a more optimal way? Is it the cleaner air, you know, it's all of those factors. I see that in pediatrics, where they're telling kids to get more active when we are moving things. So be active but be active out in nature. This this message in this pattern translates to all these different things. Whether you're a

leader, an executive in a large corporation, one of the best things that you can do to manage your stress and to actually improve your function to solve problems and design and create things is go out in nature be active out in nature, whatever that is. So there's this there's this correlation between our you know, how we're operating as a as a, an organic being and rebalancing with our nature. And you know, that the peacekeepers and you know, the high level international people are saying, Oh, we need to learn from the indigenous peoples. You know, their ways because that's, you know, that kind of charts navigation for what we need to go back to the basic, consistent or common denominator between the indigenous and the wisdom traditions. is being balanced with nature that's really it and have an or that an appreciation and regard and respect for all life living things. And so that has carried through to I've worked with Parks and Recreation because Park and Recreation is kind of this intermediary between industry preservation land preservation and you know this outdoor activity that I've worked with the industries the outdoor industry, which was one of the earlier industries to move toward trying to reroute money the so their profits like a company that I would I would be proud to plug is Patagonia and they started there 1% for the planet. So they're converting, you know, a financial model from what Prophet and guiding that toward foundations. And we've worked with companies like I've worked with companies like that and recreational equipment Incorporated, where they were funding youth programs, to incentivize young people to go out and connect with nature. And really, that is the kind of the carrying theme through all of those different industries. And every industry I've come across is in its kind of what I would call decomposing or entropic cycle of where they exist, whether you're talking about, you know, the energy industry, oil and gas to, to how education is delivered to how we provide health care, it's really oriented towards sick care versus wellness. So there's a transition there, you know, and that's the correlation

back to nature. You know, and how do we how do we to resonate and become more harmonic within our environment, that even is, you know, how do we create these spaces for astronauts, you know, if we want to terraform the moon or go to Mars, we have to have a certain type of environment for us to exist in, for us to function optimally. And so that requires some level of adaptation and resilience. But also there's some baseline patterns that are that are essential for us to survive and that relates to food, you know, like what we're doing to our food. We're altering our food and I remember one of the geneticists that developed kind of the genomic, you know, Gene modifying capabilities for for plants. is greatest concern was it takes thousands and thousands of years Yours for, for evolution to take place. And we're changing something very rapidly. So he was quite concerned about just our, our microbiome in our digestive system, being able to produce the enzymes and the capability to even break those foods down that had been genetically modified. And I think things like that are starting to come out with the COVID virus right now, as far as going back to that toxicology reference is, you know, what are we putting? What are we eating? What are we breathing, you know, what are we drinking? Is it is it really optimal? Or are there degrading and toxins in those environments? that's causing us to, to degrade from optimal health and wellness. So, I hope that answered your question, but it's been a multidisciplinary approach to To try and identify these fulcrum points, and I'm seeing a multi systemic degradation going on. So we really like and I'll refer back to Buckminster Fuller, you know, we need to create these systems, kind of from scratch instead of trying to modify our existing systems. And these new platforms that we're trying to implement really do cross all of those. 

You could call it infrastructure platform bounds, because they're integrated, but they're totally different than what we have today. And, you know, monetary governance, architecture, energy production, food production, transportation. It's a completely different model. you'd mentioned tomorrow and one of the other projects that's been getting kind of a revival is Jacques frescoes, Venus Project, has done a tremendous amount of groundwork of what society could look like under completely different systems. And I'm seeing, you know, top-level analysts and consultants from the top consulting agencies, either going into big data or going into whatever their resource mediums, and saying, we really need to do things differently. And a lot of the models already exists, the components exist. There's just a lack of integration between those different components and ingredients. 

Michelle St Jane 34:41 

Oh, that's where multidisciplinary teams are going to come in and be so important. Having leaders from different disciplines is essential. We don't know it all. And we've all had opportunities to be involved in different ways. We have wisdom from learning for moments to contribute from. 

34:59 

Paul, you do an amazing job amazing work around consulting and coaching. 

Paul Quaiser 35:09 

Yes, I'm still doing that. 

Michelle St Jane 35:11

Is it your preference is to be contacted on LinkedIn. Is that okay?

Paul Quaiser
35:15

That's probably the best. And then, you know, I think that gives people an opportunity to see, you know, the kind of network I've cultivated and how many different directions we can go. 

Michelle St Jane 35:20 

You are what I call a social-environmental Imagineer. I really appreciate your service and I'm so grateful for the areas that you work in. I have a passion for this podcast to be about less discussed conversations. as well and you've just bought up some amazing topics. I celebrate your courageousness your pioneering and you're totally conscious, some stewarding of the space that you're in and I thank you, Paul!


Resources & Links

Paul Quaiser consults, advises, and coaches a broad range of change-makers, working toward the implementation of resilient and regenerative communities. 

Email [email protected]

LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/paulquaiser

Website humansustainabilityinstitute.com

St Jane, M. (2016). Time: A Kaleidoscopic Image of Bermuda’s Sacred Financial Phenomenon and the Wealth of Social-Environmental Diversity (Thesis, Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.)). University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand. Retrieved from https://hdl.handle.net/10289/11029

Screen Agers – a documentary about the competition of academics over social media and video games. https://www.screenagersmovie.com

The Venus Project and Jacques Fresco 

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